the overwhelming majority of dll of our leaders it is a experience as a result of training and education but schwarzkopf was gifted in that sense. he knew people and knew how to mckinley motivate them -- how to motivate them and inspire them. the cultivation of that came with desert shield and desert storm and how he inspired all of the soldiers and the tremendous accomplishment that they all achieved together under h his marvelous leadership. >> general keene, having grown up in a military household myself, i know that sometimes generals like yourself and others can seem inaccessible to the american people. i read that general schwarzkopf had a way of getting people to understand how person our leadership in the world was. >> there is no doubt about that. i mean he had huge communication skills and i think one of the most brilliant things i have seen was after the successful campaign in desert storm he took to the podium and described this incredible campaign. i remember the anchor at the time who will go nameless said i never heard anything like that in my life and the way he was able